Dialogue Between Nations
 
DIALOGUES/DIALOGOS

DIALOGUE BETWEEN
ANTONIO JACANAMIJOY TISOY AND OTILIA LUX DE COTI
 Members of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues

DIALOGO ENTRE
ANTONIO JACANAMIJOY TISOY Y OTILIA LUX DE COTI
Miembros del Foro Permanente para las Cuestiones Indigenas


ANTONIO JACANAMIJOY / OTILIA LUX DE COTI

Audio: Espanol


20/05/2003 Press Release
HR/4673 Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
13th & 14th Meetings (AM & PM)


Summary of Statement presented by OTILIA LUX DE COTI to the second session of the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues during the discussion on Human Rights.

OTILIA LUX DE COTI, Forum member from Guatemala, recommended that indigenous women be considered as a theme for the Forum’s third session, and that governments and United Nations bodies provide support for the Fourth Continental Meeting for Indigenous Women of the Americas, which would take place in Lima, Peru, in March 2004.

DIALOGUE BETWEEN IDA NICOLAISEN AND LUCY MULENKEI

IDA NICOLAISEN AND LUCY MULENKEI

Audio: English


Transcription

Ida Nicolaisen, one of the state nominated experts in the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues, representing Europe, has spent a good part of her life involved with African communities as an anthropologist.

Lucy Mulenkei, Maasai, from Kenya of the Indigenous Information Network is devoted to the grass roots development of Africa's Indigenous Peoples. This conversation takes us on a journey which touches upon the issues of land, tradition and cultures, as well as their concerns confronting pastoralists within the confines of States who like people to be settled, as Ida reminds us. The problematic qualification of "who are Indigenous Peoples" also arises in this dialogue. Ida, in her role as a member of the Permanent Forum sees that there is a great willingness in the UN bodies to work on these issues. The need for a media strategy to move beyond the walls of UN is also addressed.

UN OCHA Pastoralist communication Initiative

19/05/2003 Press Release
HR/4668
Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
11th & 12th Meetings (AM & PM)


Summary of Statement presented by LUCY MULENKEI to the Second Session of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues during the discussion on Health.

LUCY MULENKEI, representative of the Indigenous Peoples Caucus on Sustainable Development, said that HIV/AIDS had become one of the worst diseases of modern times. Indigenous peoples were the worst hit because they had been marginalized. Lack of collective and correct data to determine the extent of the effect of HIV/AIDS and other related diseases among indigenous peoples prevented the successful tackling of their health problems. The utilization and protection of traditional healing systems within indigenous communities must be given due and equitable recognition, she said.

She called on Governments and industry to ensure comprehensive participatory assessment of mining activities on indigenous peoples’ health. She also demanded effective participation for indigenous peoples in the planning, implementation and monitoring of national and international health policies, programmes and services.


16/05/2003 Press Release
HR/4665
Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
9th & 10th Meetings (AM & PM)


Summary of Statement presented by LUCY MULENKEI to the Second Session of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues during the discussion on Environment.

LUCY MULENKEI, a representative of the African Indigenous Women’s Organization and the Indigenous Women’s Organization, said that environmental problems in Africa ranged from deforestation, to land degradation, to climate change. The indigenous peoples of Africa were mainly nomadic pastoralists, hunter-gatherers and other small groups. They were marginalized and discriminated against in most development activities.

Socio-economic factors and political considerations played a very significant role in land degradation, she continued.  Climatic changes throughout the world, due to the increase in greenhouse emissions, had caused frequent droughts in the region and were devastating to the indigenous peoples of Africa. Indigenous women were the hardest hit, as they now had to walk more miles in search of firewood and water. She urged African governments to show interest in the indigenous peoples of the region and to respect their rights, cultures, lands and resources. They should recognize them by making sure they participated at all levels in the planning and implementation of any environmental and other development activities in their lands.

Indigenous Media Network

DIALOGUE BETWEEN
MARCOS TERENA (BRAZIL) AND VIKTOR KAISIEPO (WEST PAPUA)

DIALOGO ENTRE
MARCOS TERENA (BRASIL) Y VIKTOR KAISIEPO (PAPUA)
Audio: Espanol
Friday, May 16, 2003

Marcos Terena (Brazil) and Victor Kaisiepo (West Papua)

Audio Spanish/Espanol
 

22/05/2003 Press Release
HR/4675
Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
17th Meeting (PM)


Summary of Statement by MARCOS TERENA presented in the session dedicated to the discussion of the future work of the Permanent Forum

Marcos Terena
Marcos Terena
Terena
 

MARCOS TERENA, of the Instituto Indígena Brasileiro de Propriedade Intelectual (INBRAPI), said Indigenous People should come to the Forum session to discuss their particular problems, and the Voluntary Fund should assist them with that. In communicating indigenous issues, Indigenous People should make use of indigenous newspapers as well as the Forum to spread the word.

He stressed that communication was of fundamental importance, and that it was vital to receive the reports of the Forum’s sessions. Many indigenous initiatives were taking place, and information about all those events should be circulated. He hoped that spiritual groups would be able to pray for the struggles against discrimination at the next session.



20/05/2003 Press Release
HR/4673
Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
13th & 14th Meetings (AM & PM)


Victor Kaisiepo
Viktor Kaisiepo Msn
Kamassan, Biak


Summary of Statement presented by VIKTOR KAISIEPO to the Permanent Forum during the discussion on Human Rights VIKTOR KAISIEPO, on behalf of the Indigenous Peoples Participants in the World Bank, recommended that the Bank host a round table with indigenous peoples, the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, and the Permanent Forum to examine the responsibility of the Bank with respect to human rights law and indigenous peoples. That responsibility should be examined in the context of policy. The revision should be made public 90 days prior to its submission to the Bank’s Director, and highlight changes recommended by indigenous peoples that had not been made. He also recommended that the Bank set up a permanent mechanism for dialogue about the implementation of the Bank’s policy regarding indigenous peoples.

He urged the Bank to examine its policies regarding indigenous peoples, which had kept them excluded from participating in the development of Bank programmes, as well as the benefits of Bank-sponsored projects within their territories. Indigenous exchanges with the Bank had not led it to carry out its responsibilities with respect to the human rights of indigenous peoples.


ADDITIONAL LINKS:

Viktor Kaisiepo, [18:03 - 4234KB]
West Papua: a case study of regional autonomy vs. military rule

International Workshop at the European Parliament Indonesia - Between Regional Autonomy and Military Rule
25 April, 2002

Audio File: English (mp3 format)

THE VOICES OF ERNEST MORISTO AND DENNIS MANUEL

Dennis and Ernest Moristo from the O'odham Nation in Arizona in the USA

Ernest Moristo and Dennis Manuel from the O'odham Nation in Arizona in the USA attend the UN Permanent Forum and share their concerns related to their ancestral land, development and the impact on families, water and sacred sites.

“The only thing we want in there is the plants, the natural plants, the medicine plants
 and the wild life that belong… that is what I am standing for”


Audio: English and original language
 

Excerpt: UN Press Release HR/4662
14/05/2003


Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
5th & 6th Meetings (AM & PM)

ERNEST MORISTO, of the Seventh Generation and Grass Roots, called for an assessment of the status of sacred sites of indigenous nations. That assessment should focus on the destructive effects of economic development plans upon the Himdag (Way of Life of the People), as violations of the indigenous rights of future generations.

Baboquivari Mountain, he continued, was the most important sacred site in a family of mountains, springs, and traditional altars of the indigenous peoples of the Sonoran Desert. The Desert had been home since time immemorial to the O’Odham, whose traditional territories and sacred sites extended from Arizona into northern Mexico.

Economic and social development plans currently proposed by the local Baboquivari District Council of the tribal council system were endangering the sacred nature of the mountain and the unique desert environment surrounding the shrine. He recommended that the Baboquivari mountains be given a high priority for an investigation by the United Nations, as part of a global assessment.

LAS VOCES DE UNA DELEGACION DE MUJERES QUECHUAS Y AYMARAS

VOICES OF A DELEGATION OF QUECHUA AND AYMARA WOMEN
 
Evarista Pacco Jove (Region Puno), Daria Clalla Huayllara (Aymara del Peru) Maria Adela Guamam (Quechua del Ecuador) y Tarcila Rivera (Quechua del Peru, Secretaria de Organizacion y Relaciones Internacionales, CHIRAPAQ, Centro de Culturas Indigenas del Peru)

Evarista Pacco Jove (Region Puno), Daria Clalla Huayllara (Aymara del Peru) Maria Adela Guamam (Quechua del Ecuador) y Tarcila Rivera (Quechua del Peru, Secretaria de Organizacion y Relaciones Internacionales, CHIRAPAQ, Centro de Culturas Indigenas del Peru)


Las companeras de Tarcila Rivera Zea se presentan sus ideas en sus idiomas maternas.

Tarcila Rivera Zea, Secretaria de Organizacion y Relaciones Internacionales de CHIRAPAQ, Centro de Culturas Indigenas del Peru, and her invited guests, share some thoughts in their original languages.

Audio: Quechua, Aymara y Espanol

Se pueden informarses sobre el trabajo de Chirapaq en linea
For more information on the work of Chirapaq, visit their web site

DIALOGO ENTRE AZELENE KAINGANG Y ESTHER CAMAC

Esther Camac (Costa Rica) and Azelene Kaingang (Brazil)

Un intercambio dinamico entre Azelene Kaingang (Brasil) y Esther Camac (Costa Rica) sobre los temas de la agro biodiversidad, el conocimiento tradicional, agendas comunitarias desarrollados por las mujeres y acuerdos a nivel internacional.

An exchange of ideas between Azelene Kaingang (Brazil) and Esther Camac (Costa Rica) on agro biodiversity, traditional knowledge, community agendas and international agreements, focusing on the role of Indigenous women and the implementation of concrete proposals.

Audio: Espanol

Azelene Kaingang
Mensaje de Azelene a su comunidad
Message from Azelene to her community


Audio: Espanol y su idioma original

Excerpt:

16/05/3 Press Release
HR/4665
10th Meeting (PM)

Summary of statement presented by Azelene Kaingang to the Second Session of the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues

 AZELENE KAINGANG, of the Wara Instituto Indígena, said indigenous land was where indigenous people practiced rituals, built societies and asserted the right to be different.   Guaranteeing them land was the only way to guarantee a people’s survival. She recommended that the Forum: ensure that governmental and non-governmental organizations had indigenous representation; set up a conflict resolution mechanism; offer technical incentives to indigenous people to carry out sustainable development on their lands; implement environmentally protective policies; ensure that biodiversity be preserved; and recognize and guarantee indigenous knowledge and intellectual property, as they related to biodiversity.
 

Esther Camac
Esther Camac en La Cumbre de Johanesburgo 2002
Esther Camac at the Johannesburg Summit on Sustainable Development 2002

Audio: Espanol 

Esther Camac comenta sobre el concepto de la frase "Nosotros los pueblos indigenas caminamos hacia el futuro en las huellas de nuestros antepasados" (La Declaracion de Kari-Oca, Brasil, 1992 y La Declaracion de Kimberley, Sudafrica, 2002). Ella ha participado en un panel sobre la Diversidad Cultural y la BIodiversidad, con el Presidente Jacques Chirac y otros expertos, en La Cumbre sobre el Desarrollo Sostenible en Johanesburgo.

Esther Camac comments on the concept underlying the phrase "We, the Indigenous Peoples, walk to the future in the footsteps of our ancestors".  (Kari-Oca Declaration, Brazil, 1992 and Kimberley Declaration, South Africa, 2002).  She participated in a panel on Cultural Diversity and Biodiversity, with President Jacques Chirac and other experts, during the World Summit on Sustainable Development in Johannesburg.

DIALOGUE BETWEEN MARCIAL ARIAS AND TITO LIVIO MARTINEZ
 In this dialogue, the recent attack and murder of Kuna Elders in Panama is the subject of discussion.

DIALOGO ENTRE MARCIAL ARIAS Y TITO LIVIO MARTINEZ
En este dialogo entre Marcial y Tito ellos hablan de sus preocupaciones sobre la matanza de unos ancianos de la nacion Kuna en Panama.


Tito Livio Martinez and Marcial Arias


Audio: Espanol


21/05/2003 Press Release
HR/4674 Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
15th & 16th Meetings (AM & PM)



Summary of Statement by TITO LIVIO MARTINEZ to the Second Session of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues during the session on Education.

 

TITO LIVIO MARTINEZ, of the Consejo Internacional de Tratados Indios (CITI) and associated groups, said education was an investment in people and society. It was a tool enabling people to fully develop their own potential as they struggled for self-determination and their lands. He was concerned, however, about the minimal participation of indigenous peoples in drafting education laws.  Indigenous people needed cultural diversity and believed in unity through diversity.


20/05/2003 Press Release
HR-4673

Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
13th & 14th Meetings (AM & PM)


Summary of Statement by Marcial Arias presented to the Second Session of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues during the discussion on Human Rights.

MARCIAL ARIAS, Kuna, on behalf of the Parlamento Rapa Nui and other indigenous groups, stressed the importance of the Working Group on Indigenous Populations. There was no duplication between their work and that of the Special Rapporteur. The Working Group should be retained to create new norms regarding indigenous peoples.

In the twenty-first century, the international community could not continue to speak about good governance, democracy and human rights, as long as there was no fundamental recognition of the territories of indigenous peoples. There was still widespread failure to recognize national and international agreements involving indigenous peoples. The human rights of indigenous peoples were continuously being violated due to a lack of respect for their human rights.

 
22/05/2003 Press Release
HR/4675
Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues Second Session
17th Meeting (PM)


Summary of Statement by Marcial Arias presented to the Second Session of the Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues during the discussion on the future work of the Forum.

MARCIAL ARIAS, Kuna representative from Panama, on behalf of several indigenous organizations, questioned what had been achieved during the decade for Indigenous people. Many governments and agencies had made plans for activities that were not carried out. The Forum should recommend to States and the General Assembly that the decade be extended. He stressed that the self-determination of indigenous people meant the re-appropriation of lands and territories. The Forum should consider that issue because it was a major part of the plans of action for the decade for Indigenous people.

DIALOGO ENTRE
MIGUEL ANGEL ARAGON Y ANA FLAVIA ROCHA

DIALOGUE BETWEEN
MIGUEL ANGEL ARAGON AND ANA FLAVIA ROCHA

Miguel Angel Aragon and Ana Flavia Rocha
Miguel Angel Aragon and Ana Flavia Rocha


Audio: Espanol 

Dos observadores en el foro, MIGUEL ANGEL ARAGON, asesor juridico de CIDOB en Bolivia, y ANA FLAVIA ROCHA que trabaja en el Instituto Socioambiental de Brasil, presentan sus perspectivas desde el Foro Permanente para las Cuestiones Indigenas.

Ana, una abogada, habla de su trabajo en la proteccion de los derechos colectivos en Brasil y las cuestiones ambientales que son las cosas inseparables. Sobre el tema de que es la autodeterminacion de los pueblos, ella dice que en Brasil los pueblos no saben que existen los derechos. Segun la percepcion de Miguel Angel, el comenta de que el identifica personalmente que no hay un encuentro entre los diferentes interes de los dirigentes indigenas al respecto de que hay que hacer en este ambito internacional, especialmente relacionado con el Borrador de la Declaracion de la ONU sobre los Derechos de los Pueblos Indigenas.


Two observers to the Forum process, Miguel Angel Aragon, legal counsel to CIDPOB in Bolivia, and Ana Flavia Rocha, who works in the Instituto Socioambiental de Brasil, present their perspectives on their work in their own countries.

Ana, a lawyer, talks about the challenges of the Institute with regards to the protection of collective rights in Brazil, which she sees as inseparable from environmental issues. On the topic of self-determination, she says that the indigenous communities in Brazil are unaware of the existence of rights. Miguel Angel comments that he personally identifies with the problem of the different interests of indigenous leaders within the international arena and feels that concensus cannot ever be reached, certainly with respect to the UN Draft Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

 

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